Korea's Ethnic Chinese, continued
In a previous post I outlined some of the context and conditions of ethnic Chinese in Korea, known locally as hwagyo 화교. This is a follow up to that post.
While in Korea I was fortunate enough to speak to many hwagyo and learn a great deal about the history and conditions as well as the dialect of Mandarin spoken by the older generation. I conducted a number of interviews over the period of a year, mostly speaking with ethnic Chinese who’d grown up in Korea, but also with a number of recent Chinese expats about their own lives in Korea.
The following is an interview with Ethan Chiang, a Chinese who grew up spending time between Korea and Taiwan. This interview was done over email. My questions are bold.
1. Could you please introduce yourself?
My name is Yih-Hong Chiang, I use “Ethan” as my nickname most of the time.
I’m an overseas Chinese from Korea. I was born in In-Cheon, Korea and grew up in Seoul.
I went to Taiwan for College when I was 18 years old, that’s when I really left Seoul, then I studied and worked in San Francisco for about 4 years, now live in Taipei.
2. On your photography blog as well as your Twitter feed, you call yourself a Korean-born Taiwanese. Do both parts of this, Korean as well as Taiwanese, have equal weight in terms of your sense of identity?
Actually we call ourselves Overseas “Chinese” in Korea.
Long story short, my great grandparents are the 1st generation who moved from China to Korea. They consider China as their home, that’s why we call ourselves Overseas “Chinese” until now.
The reason that I call myself as Overseas “Taiwanese” is because I don’t really have anything to do with China, except my great grandparents, grandparents and parents are from China.
I myself was born in Korea, and I only have Taiwanese citizenship(1). By calling myself Overseas Taiwanese is much easier for me when explaining my identity, so I don’t have to give people a history lesson about my background.
Being Taiwanese is more comfortable for me since both of my parents are Mandarin speakers, I speak Mandarin at home, at school, and I hang out with Chinese friends most of the time.
(1) Korean government doesn’t file any “citizenship” ID to people like me in Korea, they only give us “legal residential card(just like GREENCARD in U.S.)”, which means Korean government still consider us as foriegners.
Taiwanese government is willing to file us the official citizenship ID only if we live more than an year in Taiwan. Even if we weren’t born in Taiwan, they still consider us as Taiwanese citizen.
3. You are now living in Taiwan. How long did you live in Seoul before moving?
I lived in Seoul for 18 years.
4. Did you attend a Mandarin-language high school in Korea?
Yes, Mandarin language elementary school, junior high and senior high school.
5. In Korea, high school students spend a long time preparing for the College Entrance Exam (수능). However, Mandarin-language schools in Korea typically follow the Taiwanese curriculum. What affect does this have on many students in Chinese schools regarding their ability to attend top Korean universities? How does it affect the competitiveness of Chinese students?
No, Chinese students don’t have to take the same exam as Korean students.
Different Korean universities have different policies towards Chinese students. They have different ways of taking exams and different score standards, some of the schools only require face-to-face interview, while some of the schools require a full set of the examination. It really depends on the schools, the policies are changing every year.
6. Do you feel there is significant discrimination against Hwagyo in Korea? In what areas of life is it most obvious?
It happened in my grandparents’ and my parents’ generation, my parents weren’t allowed to play with native Korean when they were kids, my grandparents were very against native Koreans at that time, because Koreans at that time somehow consider Overseas Chinese as Refugees who lost their own identity and country.
But it’s a whole different story in my generation, we get along well with Koreans, we speak fluent Korean. and most of the Overseas Chinese in my generation has the advantage of bilingual ability, and Koreans nowadays want to learn Chinese more than English.
7. A number of Korean-born huaqiao keep Taiwanese passports, opting instead to live on an F visa in Korea. Do you hold Korean citizenship? If not, what was your reason for not having it?
I have Taiwanese ID and passport, and only have F-5 Visa in Korea.
Foreigners are not allowed to get the Korean ID unless they give up every other citizenships.
Overseas Chinese who holds Taiwanese ID can take full advantage of being a Taiwanese in Taiwan, and almost can live like a native Korean citizen in Korea with my F-5 Visa, so there is no reason for me to give up my Taiwanese citizenship.
But holding a Taiwanese passport and ID are different, Taiwanese government doesn’t consider you as Taiwanese citizen if you only have Taiwanese passport, and Korean government doesn’t consider you as Korean citizen if you only holds F-5 Visa, which makes the situation quite interesting. If Overseas Chiense doesn’t apply for Taiwanese nor Korean IDs, we’re just people without clear national identity.
8. I’ve met many Hwagyo residents of Korea who reject Korean citizenship. I’ve asked many people why they choose to have Taiwanese passports but live in Korea. The answer has often been simply “我不是韓國人”. Do you think many people feel this way? If so, what do you think is the main reason?
It’s because we are still being considered as foreigners, and are not being fully accepted by Korean society.
Why doesn’t Korean government give us the Korean citizenship ID on the date we were born? Just like U.S. government does.
9. Under Park Chung-hee (박정희), life was effectively made miserable for many Chinese living in Korea at the time. Limitations were placed on their bank accounts and on rights to own property. As a result, many people left Korea. While things have gotten better since his presidency, do you feel there are still many official forms of discrimination left over from this time?
Almost all the limitations are gone, but I don’t think we have the right to vote though.
and I have to say that Korea is not a very foreigner-friendly country. I have experienced so many difficult time while shopping online, my foreigner F visa doesn’t work on almost all the online shopping website*.
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Big thanks to Ethan for taking the time to answer some questions. Be sure to take a look at his photography blog which has been featured on Korean expat sites and through which I heard of him.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing! There’re some things that the US government definitely “gets right” and granting citizenship is definitely one of them.
One thing that is worth noting is that Taiwan has become very restrictive of the rights of these overseas-born “無戶籍國民” in recent decades. Read Immigration Act Chapter 3 to see what provisions apply; it’s ridiculous. Even if they have a TW passport they need entry permits to visit TW. To actually get an ID card you have to live in TW for years, depending on your type of entry permit. Without that ID card they have no rights.
http://law.moj.gov.tw/Eng/LawClass/LawAll.aspx?PCode=D0080132
Thanks to that they are effectively stateless: if they commit crimes they could be deported from Korea, but if Korea sent them to Taiwan they also have no rights and could even be deported from Taiwan too. (And they don’t qualify for PRC citizenship either because their parents were “settled abroad” at the time of their birth). I wrote two posts on this a while ago on my own blog:
http://notlearningcantonese.posterous.com/nationality-issues-of-chinese-residents-of-so
http://notlearningcantonese.posterous.com/fully-legal-second-passport-from-reputable-as
Not to say that the US is much better. Overseas-born kids of Americans have lots of trouble registering to vote (because you’re supposed to do it at your “last address” in the U.S.) and are not even guaranteed US citizenship unless their American parent can prove their length of residence in the US. And that’s not even discussing the ridiculous mess with the IRS (e.g. disabled Canadian kids whose American parents have to file a six-page Form 3520 and pay U.S. taxes on the RDSP welfare accounts that the Canadian government sets up for them).
Regarding that last point, plenty of adoptees from Korea have gotten screwed by the system depending on when they were brought to the US. There were some temporal gaps in the whole naturalisation system. Hopefully it’s better for the much more recent Chinese-born adoptees.
Interesting reading on the plight of the Overseas Chinese in other countries.
In Indonesia, in the past, an overseas Chinese has to renounce whatever connections they have with China or Taiwan in order to have acquire Citizenship in the form of ID and Passports. Both Passport and ID go hand in hand , and no citizen can have one without another, although it is possible to have ID only without passport for many due to unnecessity to travel abroad. For overseas Chinese, in the early days , we must have “Certificate of Proven Citizenship”, despite being born in Indonesia.Though, now it is less important to have the certificate as many more ethnic Chinese born in Indonesia, immediately gained a status of Indonesian Citizen, unless the parent happened to be foreigner or choose not to exercise that the right to apply for citizenship for the Children. Yes, Indonesian born Chinese did and does face many challenges being a citizen, stereotyping and discrimination in many forms. But these days, things are improving, though the memory of past persecution and violence as recent as 1998 still fresh in the memories of many Indonesian Chinese community in Indonesia. Most importantly for overseas Chinese, irregardless of the country , must strive to contribute to whatever adopted country they choose to stay, provided if the host country is willing to adopt them as their own. I have to agree no point in staying in a country where one has to face ongoing labeling as “foreigner”. Both sides have to accommodate each other, for the nation to move forward.